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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Nov 3, 2011 8:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

Just a little food for thought....
A wise man (my father) once told me... If you let someone that you think is an asshole piss you off, that makes you an even bigger asshole.
If he didn't get a reaction everytime he poked you, he would eventually stop poking you. your reaction is what makes it fun.

Just my .02

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 3, 2011 8:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

The voice of sanity.

Your Dad is indeed a wise man. Mine told me something very similar once...."You don't have to murder a man who is committing suicide."

Shifting gears - I am coming up to Wilmington on 01 Dec to see the String Cheese Incident at the Tower Theater. (Chees bashing in the other thread notwithstanding)

Were you planning on going or willing to chance it?

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Nov 3, 2011 7:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

Sorry Rick... can't make it. Current job uncertainty has us cutting back alot and trying to preserve as much cash as possible. Have to be a little choosy where our entertainment $$ get spent these days. Not much of a cheese fan, so I can't really justify spending the cash. Thanks for thinking of me though!! If you are going to be in town for a few days, maybe we can get together again for lunch!

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 4, 2011 7:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

I'll be up Thursday through Sunday - I'll give you a call.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 3, 2011 9:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

"Just a little food for thought....
A wise man (my father) once told me... If you let someone that you think is an asshole piss you off, that makes you an even bigger asshole.
If he didn't get a reaction everytime he poked you, he would eventually stop poking you. your reaction is what makes it fun."

those are wise words finster, and i usually follow them. however, i can assure you cliff does not piss me off. he's more like an annoying fly that's always buzzing around, pestering people, and looking for shit to land on. i responded the way i did just to let him know how pathetic he is, and that i know for a fact many others despise him, but won't admit it here.

This post was modified by rdenirojb87 on 2011-11-03 16:11:38

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Poster: sugar_shack Date: Nov 3, 2011 9:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

Another quote I prfer comes from HeartBreak Ridge as Major Gunny whispers in the punished soldiers ear and the commander asks him to repeat what he said to him his response was...
"don't give the bastard the satisfaction"

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 3, 2011 9:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

but why bring SomeDarkHollow into this? :)

off subject(?) I'm trippin on a 1982 Palace of Fine Arts - Ravi Shankar...whoaaaa! I'm in f'n India!

Ravi and the Dead could have worked, well, Hamza El Din did well with the Dead

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 3, 2011 9:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

I think Ravi has 2 others playing, the bongo guy and another...sitar(?). This is like Indian jam dead, they're chasing each other around all intertwined. Conversing. I've got this sudden urge to worship a cow in the field next door...cool or dire?

serious, this is very good, i found it with some seeders at dime

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 3, 2011 10:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

That is very funny.

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Poster: adks12020 Date: Nov 3, 2011 10:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

haha..indian jam dead...I liek the term but although Indian music is all about chasing eachother around it isn't really like the dead at all. I always had that impression too until I read about it a little more and heard some interviews with Ravi.

People were comparing his music to the Dead and jazz artists of the time and he denied that emphatically.

In reality almost all the music Ravi Shankar played was based on very detailed traditional scales and melodies that he had memorized (as do all traditional Indian musicians) and didn't really implement improvisation. Indian musicians literally memorize thousands of scales and melodies and all good classical Indian musicians know them so although it sounds like improve they all generally know where one tune will go once they hear the first one.

Its really crazy stuff...most of the scales have different notes on the way up than they do on the way down and often a different number of notes on the way up and the way down. Nothing like western music.

As far as Donna goes...I don't think she had a bad voice when the songs suited her...it's just that I think she fit with the Dead's repertoire. I like her with JGB in the late 70s...and even some Dead shows in 77. Listen to a version of Sunrise from 1977 9can't remember the date of the one I'm thinking of) and if you can honestly tell me her voice is just horrible then you must have a hearing deficiency. That song is not an easy one to sing.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 3, 2011 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

thanks for the info, that is rehearsed? Amazing! I wonder what Dead shows Ravi heard, I could be wrong - usually - I think Ravi could have sat in with the 1978 GD. It's sad, but other than woodstock, this is my only exposure to Sitar India. On Donna, Scarlet Begonias is not complete without her voice, my mental history.This is the txt I'm printing >>

Ravi Shankar
1982 June 18
Palace Of Fine Arts
San Francisco, CA

with:
Allah Rakha - Tabla
Ali Akbar Khan - Sarod

Disc 1
1. Raga Jhinjhoti
2. Raga Durga (10)

Disc 2
1. (remarks)
Sindhi Bhairavi:
2. Chanchar (3-4-3-4)
3. Teental (16)

Bonus Tracks: The Grateful Dead
Passaic, NJ - 1978 November 24
4. Drumz ->
5. Ollin Arrageed (With Hamza El Din)

Ravi Shankar recording notes: center of hall
3 Nak 700 mikes (L, R, Center blend) ->
custom preamp -> Sony TCD-5 -> dub from
1st Gen off master -> Audiophile 2496 sound
card -> digital cleanup (no EQ) -> FLAC.
excellent audience recording.

Note:
All the performances I've been fortunate to obtain
over the years have excellent sound-a commentary
on the respect that Ravi receives from his audience.
At 91, Ravi is still going strong and will be touring
Europe this winter. Please go see this living legend
for it is truly a magical experience.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 5, 2011 6:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one? - GD 2/24/74 Miller

back to Donna, she's really good in the JGB, but if Monte or someone perhaps does an interview with her, please bring a 20sec recording of her vocal into to the Playin, play it then ask..."Donna, what were you thinking??". I've actually heard a few very good Donna Playin wails, maybe 79?, in tune, but far and in between. The rest of 2/24 Playing is whew good!! But she gets the last ohohowaaaaaaoooohhhhhhhhahohhhhhhhhhhhwaaaaaaaaaaaiiiieee! I love donna, forever a member of the Grateful Dead and The Jerry Garcia Band.
Well, thijgs to fret over haha.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 5, 2011 6:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one? - GD 2/24/74 Miller

There was interview with Donna posted here a few years back and she comments that she has troubles listening to many of her performances with the band. The article was in the Baltimore Sun in 2007, however i can't find a copy.